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 # Interviews
 
-## André Dao
+## Yolande Stengers and Jenny Kennedy
+
+Yolande and Jenny provide a “reboot” manifesta in their book [_The Smart Wife: Why Siri, Alexa, and Other Smart Home Devices Need a Feminist Reboot_](https://www.audible.com.au/pd/The-Smart-Wife-Audiobook/1705255280), which lays out their proposals for improving the design and social effects of digital voice assistants, social robots, sex robots, and other AI arriving in the home.
+
+![Listen to the whole interview](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Yolande%20Stengers/Yolande%20Stengers%20and%20Jenny%20Kennedy%20(10)/Yolande%20Stengers%20and%20Jenny%20Kenn%20-%20Yolande%20Stengers.mp3)
 
-Listen to André on ![human rights monitoring](audio:static/audio/intro-to-pulse-and-radio-content-analysis.mp3)
 
 ## Halcyon Lawrence
 
 ![Listen to the whole interview](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Halcyon%20Lawrence/Halcyon%20Lawrence%20(18)/Halcyon%20Lawrence%20-%20Halcyon%20Lawrence.mp3)
 
-Listen to Halcyon on ![raced and racializing](audio:static/audio/halcyon-siri-imperialism.mp3) listenings
-
 ## Kathy Reid
 
-Listen to Kathy on ![automatic speech recognition](audio:static/audio/kathy-reid-intro-to-ASR.mp3)
+## Andre Dao
 
 ## Lawrence Abu Hamdan
 
-Listen to Lawrence on why responding to machinic bias with a politics of inclusion can also be ![a trap](audio:static/audio/lawrence_trap.mp3)
+
 
 ## Mark Andrejevic
 
@@ -28,29 +29,17 @@ Listen to Lawrence on why responding to machinic bias with a politics of inclusi
 
 ![Listen to part 2 of the interview](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Mark%20Andrejevic/Mark%20Andrejevic%20(part%202)%20(17)/Mark%20Andrejevic%20(part%202)%20-%20Mark%20Andrejevic.mp3)
 
-Listen to Mark on ![operational listening](audio:static/audio/andrejevic-on-operationalism.mp3)
 
 
 ## Shannon Mattern
 
 ![Listen to the whole interview](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Shannon%20Mattern/Shannon%20Mattern%20(19)/Shannon%20Mattern%20-%20Shannon%20Mattern.mp3)
 
-Listen to ![an excerpt](audio:static/audio/mattern_critique.mp3) with Shannon
-
 ## Stefan Maier
 
 ![Listen to the whole interview](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Stefan%20Maier/Stefan%20Maier%20(21)/Stefan%20Maier%20-%20Stefan%20Maier.mp3)
 
-Or listen to Stefan on ![precedents](audio:static/audio/maier.mp3)
-
 ## Thomas Stachura
 
 ![Listen to the whole interview](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Thomas%20Stachura/Thomas%20Stachura%20(20)/Thomas%20Stachura%20-%20Thomas%20Stachura.mp3)
 
-## Yolande Stengers and Jenny Kennedy
-
-Yolande and Jenny provide a “reboot” manifesta in their book [_The Smart Wife: Why Siri, Alexa, and Other Smart Home Devices Need a Feminist Reboot_](https://www.audible.com.au/pd/The-Smart-Wife-Audiobook/1705255280), which lays out their proposals for improving the design and social effects of digital voice assistants, social robots, sex robots, and other AI arriving in the home.
-
-![Listen to the whole interview](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Yolande%20Stengers/Yolande%20Stengers%20and%20Jenny%20Kennedy%20(10)/Yolande%20Stengers%20and%20Jenny%20Kenn%20-%20Yolande%20Stengers.mp3)
-
-Listen to Yolande on ![gendered and gendering](audio:static/audio/gender-and-gendering.mp3) listenings
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