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 ## Lesson 4: How to become (in)audible by merging into a world of operational sound
 
-Speak in code; become the code you speak; live for a week [as Alexa](https://lauren-mccarthy.com/LAUREN); entitle your next album Adversarial Music Synthesizer (Threat Model); embed subliminal messages in it, but for Alexa; get an Amazon Halo for Christmas; get your cough medicine delivered the day before you start coughing; allow machine listening's attempted perfection of the subject to extinguish the subject.  
+Speak in code; become the code you speak; ![live for a week as Alexa](audio:static/audio/lauren.mp3);[^McCarthy] entitle your next album Adversarial Music Synthesizer (Threat Model); embed subliminal messages in it, but for Alexa; get an Amazon Halo for Christmas; get your cough medicine delivered the day before you start coughing; allow machine listening's attempted perfection of the subject to extinguish the subject.  
 
 ## Lesson 5: How to be (in)audible by having nothing to hide
 
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 [^forensic listening]: LIBRARY Lawrence Abu Hamdan, “Aural Contract–Forensic Listening and The Reorganization Of The Speaking Subject,” Cesura//Acceso 1 (2014): 200; James Parker, "Forensic Listening in Lawrence Abu Hamdan’s Saydnaya (the missing 19dB)" *Index* (2020).
 [^Abdilla]: Interview with Angie Abdilla, founder of [Old Ways, New](https://oldwaysnew.com/) on 2 September 2020
 [^Ahmed]: LIBRARY Alex Ahmed, 'Online Community-based Design of Free and Open Source Software for Transgender Voice Training' (2020); Alex Ahmed, 'Trans Competent Interaction Design: A Qualitative Study on Voice, Identity, and Technology' *Interacting with Computers* (2018)
-[^reid]: Interview with [Kathy Reid](https://blog.kathyreid.id.au/) on 11 August, 2020
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+[^McCarthy]: Interview with [Lauren McCarthy](https://lauren-mccarthy.com/LAUREN) recorded on 22 September 2020.
+[^reid]: Interview with [Kathy Reid](https://blog.kathyreid.id.au/) on 11 August 2020
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