curriculum/content/interview/mark-andrejevic.md

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title: "Mark Andrejevic"
Description: "[Mark's](https://research.monash.edu/en/persons/mark-andrejevic) recent book [Automated Media](https://www.routledge.com/Automated-Media/Andrejevic/p/book/9780367196837) considers the politics of automation through the 'cascading logics' of pre-emption, operationalism, and 'framelessness'. We talk through some of these ideas, along with the limits of 'surveillance capitalism' as an analytic frame,  'touchlessness' in the time of Covid, 'operational listening', what automation is doing to subjectivity... and how all this relates to reality TV."
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author: "Machine Listening"
date: "2020-08-21T00:00:00-05:00"
episode_image: "images/ml.gif"
explicit: "no"
hosts: ["james-parker", "joel-stern", "sean-dockray"]
images: ["images/ml.gif"]
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podcast_duration: "50:26"
podcast_file: "https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Mark%20Andrejevic/Mark%20Andrejevic%20(part%201)%20(16)/Mark%20Andrejevic%20(part%201)%20-%20Mark%20Andrejevic.mp3"
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youtube: ""
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series: []
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transcript: "http://git.metadada.xyz/machinelistening/curriculum/src/branch/master/content/transcript/andrejevic.md"
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