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+title: "Angie Abdilla"
+Description: "[Angie talks to us about [Old Ways, New](https://oldwaysnew.com/), the Indigenous owned and led social enterprise she founded, based on Gadigal land in Redfern, Sydney. We discuss [Decolonising the Digital](http://ojs.decolonising.digital/index.php/decolonising_digital), Country Centered Design, a methodology which applies Indigenous design principles to the development of technologies for places, spaces and experiences, and how this contrasts with the 'placelessness' on which so many machine learning/listening systems are based."
+aliases: []
+author: "Machine Listening"
+date: "2020-09-21T00:00:00-05:00"
+episode_image: "images/ml.gif"
+explicit: "no"
+hosts: ["james-parker", "joel-stern", "sean-dockray"]
+images: ["images/ml.gif"]
+news_keywords: []
+podcast_duration: "38:49"
+podcast_file: "https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Angie%20Abdilla/Angie%20Abdilla%20(31)/Angie%20Abdilla%20-%20Angie%20Abdilla.mp3"
+podcast_bytes: ""
+youtube: ""
+categories: []
+series: []
+tags: []
+transcript: "http://git.metadada.xyz/machinelistening/curriculum/src/branch/master/content/transcript/abdilla.md"
+---
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