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 {{% interview "angie-abdilla.md" %}}
 
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-## James Parker (w Jasmine Guffond)
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-This is the first of three radio shows as part of [Jasmine's](https://jasmineguffond.bandcamp.com/album/microphone-permission) guest residency at Noods Radio. It features an interview with [James](https://law.unimelb.edu.au/about/staff/james-parker) about his research on machine listening, this curriculum, the project with Unsound, and a selection of electronic music.
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-![Interview conducted on 1 September, 2020](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/James%20Parker/James%20Parker%20(30)/James%20Parker%20-%20James%20Parker.mp3)
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-## Vladan Joler
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-Vladan walks us through [Anatomy of an AI System](https://anatomyof.ai/), his 2018 work with [Kate Crawford](https://www.katecrawford.net/), which diagrams the Amazon Echo as an anatomical map of human labor, data and planetary resources. We talk about the politics of visibility and method as well as Vladan's work with [Share Lab](https://labs.rs/en/), "where indie data punk meets media theory pop to investigate digital rights blues." 
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-![Interview conducted on 1 September, 2020](audio:https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Vladan%20Joler/Vladan%20Joler%20(part%202)%20(29)/Vladan%20Joler%20(part%202)%20-%20Vladan%20Joler.mp3)
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+{{% interview "vladan-joler.md" %}}
 
 ## Halcyon Lawrence