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title: "Jonathan Sterne and Elena Razlogova"
Description: "We talk with [Jonathan](https://sterneworks.org/about/) and [Elena](http://elenarazlogova.org/) about their [collaborative work](https://sterneworks.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Sterne-Razlogova-Tuning.pdf) on AI and the automation of music mastering, with a particular focus on Montreal-based platform [LANDR](https://join.landr.com/landr-studio/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=sales_platform_en_intl_landr&utm_term=landr&utm_content=616946549975&gclid=CjwKCAjwpKyYBhB7EiwAU2Hn2SImiDR_7mp6bkcNP0BqY1h-ClJ7MUKFadha7r0P60Imo-Aa0eLBYhoCyBUQAvD_BwE). But the conversation inevitably drifts towards much bigger questions on the politics of automation and machine listening."
aliases: []
author: "Machine Listening"
date: "2022-12-08"
episode_image: "images/ml.gif"
explicit: "no"
hosts: ["james-parker", "joel-stern", "sean-dockray"]
images: ["images/ml.gif"]
news_keywords: []
podcast_duration: "88:15"
podcast_file: "https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Jonathan%20Sterne/Jonathan%20Sterne%20and%20Elena%20Razlogova%20(543)/Jonathan%20Sterne%20and%20Elena%20Razlo%20-%20Jonathan%20Sterne.mp3"
podcast_bytes: ""
youtube: ""
categories: []
series: []
tags: []
transcript: "http://git.metadada.xyz/machinelistening/curriculum/src/branch/master/content/transcript/JSER.md"
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