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title: "Jonathan Sterne and Elena Razlogova"
Description: "We talk with Jonathan and Elena about their collaborative work on AI and the automation of music mastering, with a particular focus on Montreal-based platform LANDR. But the conversation inevitably drifts towards much bigger questions on the politics of automation and machine listening."
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author: "Machine Listening"
date: "2022-12-08"
episode_image: "images/ml.gif"
explicit: "no"
hosts: ["james-parker", "joel-stern", "sean-dockray"]
images: ["images/ml.gif"]
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podcast_duration: "....."
podcast_file: "https://machinelistening.exposed/library/Alex%20Ahmed/Alex%20Ahmed%20(22)/Alex%20Ahmed%20-%20Alex%20Ahmed.mp3"
podcast_bytes: ""
youtube: ""
categories: []
series: []
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transcript: "http://git.metadada.xyz/machinelistening/curriculum/src/branch/master/content/transcript/JSER.md"
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